Thanks and Praise
If you haven’t already seen or read about this amazing photograph, the story is at Michael Yon’s site.
The Iraqis asked me to convey a message of thanks to the American people. ” Thank you, thank you,” the people were saying. One man said, “Thank you for peace.” Another man, a Muslim, said “All the people, all the people in Iraq, Muslim and Christian, is brother.”
The church is now operational, as seen in this recent post:
It was the local Muslims, according to LTC Michael, who first came to him for help to protect the Christians in his area. That’s right. LTC Michael told me more than once that the Muslims reached out to him to protect the Christians from al Qaeda. Real Muslims here are quick to say that al Qaeda members are not true Muslims. From charging “rent,” al Qaeda’s harassment escalated to killing Christians, and also Muslims. Untold thousands of Christians and Muslims fled Baghdad in the wake of the darkness of civil war. Most of the Christians are gone now; having fled to Syria, Jordan or Northern Iraq.
It’s looking like the fires are being put out. What a blessing!

I already know you disagree with his prescriptions, but what do you think about this characterization (esp the parts I bolded) of the state of Iraq?
And oops, I meant to include the source, it was one of Freidman’s lasts columns talking about Iraq, titled: “Remeber Iraq”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/opinion/24friedman.html
It’s just awful!
Baghdad by night — juice bars, neon lights, bustling streets
A few weeks ago you were arguing that the security situation was like a burning builiding with no hope of recovery. Harry Reid declared the war “lost” after only a few days of the surge in full progress. Now you move quickly on to complaining about the lack of political progress. Things are not perfect but they are far from hopeless and impossible.
I would appreciate it if you commented on the post instead of just dumping talking points. I have mentioned this frequently as a source of frustration. It is not a real conversation.
Hey Dave, not really trying to do a “data dump” on you, but asking an honest question as to your view of the big picture of where things were.
Please do try to quote me accurately. I did use the analogy of the state of Iraq as a burning building…but I did not say there was no hope, just that all we could do with our forces was slow the burn…it would take Maliki and company to make systemic changes to “prop up the building” and that we should give them time to…. But that shy of their work that there was little we could do but slow the causalities as the building moved to collapse…
I also said I hoped it would slow the burn…and I too am thankful that instead of 35 bodies dumped on the streets a night, now there are “only” 5 a night. And that there were “only” 16 suicide bombings last month down from 30 last summer. I really do pray for that to continue and get better.
But I don’t confuse that with systemic health.
I’m sorry but I call bullshit. You clearly meant that the surge was hopeless and doomed to fail, just like a fireman rushing into a collapsing building: what’s the point.
You baselessly questioned Petraeus’s data, and therefore his integrity.
You even questioned whether his strategy was something new.
You have consistently refused to rejoice in ANY good news, and I am tired of it.
I am not arguing for “systemic health” and stop baiting me into that line of thought. I don’t have time to argue, I just wanted to share some positive images and news. If you want to look at it in the most negative way possible, that’s fine. There’s been false hope before- at least for some of us- and it could always fall apart again.
But I can’t help noticing that the party line has gone from pooh-poohing elections, to harping on securitiy, to now pooh-poohing any political progress. I call bullshit.
I don’t want to argue. If you find these images moving or interesting, I’d love to hear about it. There’s still a lot of progress to be made, I just am in the mode of wanting to focus on solutions and good news. That helps me.
Follow the link above. Does it really matter so much if the politicians can’t get it together yet if life is getting back to normal?
BTW, your suggestion in a recent comment about “no al-Queda” in Iraq: that was part of the Surge. The fact you suggest it as a novel approach to me means you really haven’t been getting good info about what’s going on. Which doesn’t surprise me because the Democrats have been mocking the idea that al-Queda has been in Iraq or is somehow connected to the violence in the last couple of years.
I’m still very busy and I have to go– I don’t want our friendship to suffer though- so maybe it’s time to cool it for a while. I don’t want to argue, I just want to share positive news. That’s all I can really do right now.
I love you man. I wish we could talk about this all over beers, I think it would feel a lot more congenial.
Happy Thanksgiving Dave:
Agreed that a table with frosty beers would likely make for a much better setting for our chats… We actually have to do that someday not too far away… If you and the rest of the Grecus want to make it over to DC, I’ll reserve a table at Capitol City brewery… (or there is a decent chance we’ll be back in LA sometime next quarter)
And think that giving further political or foreign policy debate a chill for a while is likely a good idea…
But if you’ll excuse a bit of defensiveness on the bullshit-esque nature of my previous comments, here is what I was saying, with less than hopeless parts in bold: